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Burn and run?
« on: June 09, 2013, 11:43:43 AM »
SHTF you're OTR and a vehicle is disabled, cant fix it (broken axle,blown motor....) what do you do burn it so that no one else can scavenge it or just push it into the brush? Same would go for your home/retreat. Leave in place or burn? ( it worked for the Russians in both the napoleanic and second world wars) Your views....
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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2013, 12:17:15 PM »
I think I would push it in the bush. If it was no use to me then I would not begrudge someone else finding something useful on it. Just as the reverse would be true I would welcome finding something useful on an obviously abandoned vehicle that I could use.

Same goes for the house or retreat, leave it in tact. If someone else found it useful for shelter , if only for one night I would enjoy that thought.

That being said it would depend on the situation. If we were being pursued by a group that were seizing land and everything else as they moved forward and intended retain the assets to promote their cause it would be a different story. The it would be " Burn as you go"!
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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2013, 02:37:56 PM »
Good topic.

I, agree with ICRCC on the situation will dictate the actions of me and mine. If, the general environment around the event are generally peaceful, but isolation is the keystone to survival - say a flu pandemic; I would more likely than not camo the vehicle to retrieve  later. Same with the gear that could not be carried, I would cache that for later retrieval. If at all possible, I would not destroy my home, as I may want to move back after the pandemic has passed.

Now, if the event involves general widespread lawlessness, gangs, or hostile invaders - then it would be an action to deny the enemy of resources, food, shelter, supplies, etc. And then hope like hell it is a very cold and long winter and the b@$tards all freeze to death.

But hey, that is just me.

I would prefer a solution that shares with those in the greatest need and working together to see all of us through an event that threatens the survival of all of us in this area. BUT if some prefer not to play nice, I can play that game, too. I just prefer not to.

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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2013, 06:13:21 PM »
Like it has been said already, it wholly depends on the type of situation and circumstances along with the people involved.

This is were we separate the Leaders and real Prepper/Survivalist from the Armchair Commandos and food gatherers.
Sometimes you might even have to drop and run in an ambush, come back later and well.. you know..

In another forum an armchair prepper was caught up in the whole you always fight, where did your awesome survival skills and fighting abilities go. Armchair Commandos !! arrrggg

Everything depends on the situation at that moment, from who is in your group to any weapons, to kids, to the weather, to who is attacking you, the type of ground, settings, terrain, end of day, beginning of day,  etc etc etc.

If I am in a group of mixed abilities and experiences, it may just be better to leave then come back in the wee hours and remedy the TWO situations at the same time! Collect your things and send them on their way, permanently. A small trained force of section/squad size can take out and immobilize the enemy even if that enemy is a platoon, company or larger sized. Depending on terrain, timing, training, weather etc etc..

The Time for Queensberry rules in Boxing is over in these types of actions and reactions.
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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 04:18:23 AM »
Just testing the waters...
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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2013, 04:41:15 PM »
We understand that,
everyone so far that posted would be in the 99% same category for thinking on almost all issues.

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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2013, 07:35:49 PM »
Right on.
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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2013, 05:29:31 PM »
I don't believe in burning, it might be the scrounger in me. Leave a car behind, leave it unlocked, and come back for it when you can, or not. Any vehicle that I find abandoned in a SHTF scenario, I would take one way or another, just for the metal and glass, seats and what ever else that I could strip from it. If it is in running condition, than I would be converting it to run on wood gas. You could also use it as a belt drive for other machinery.
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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2013, 12:46:44 AM »
Great, now I need to find skeletal remains for my BOV if I am chased by crazies. Burn and leave the remains of some other shlub behind for the thugs to find. Tee hee, so smart! If that is not an option I am for just leaving it on the road in hopes the person who fixes it can give me a lift 30 miles up.

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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2013, 10:10:57 AM »
As they say with bear attacks.... You don't need to run the fastest... just faster than the next slowest person... LOL

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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2013, 06:47:45 PM »
This has turned into the most fun topic so far, I am enjoying the responses !


Another darker option ! In the Khyber pass region, they leave vehicles behind on purpose for the enemy and then kaboom !
not a recommendation, just a comment on what some do now and have done in the past.

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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2013, 09:35:56 PM »
More twisted thoughts,(followed by maniacal laughter) if youre gonna burn light it up and push it into the timber(make damn sure of the wind direction) and let er rip!!! That should be a good little distraction (not recommended  but fun to talk about) You're right E this is a fun topic.
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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2013, 10:27:46 PM »
If it was me on my way to my BOL. I'd just push it off the road hide it as best I could. Depending on how much time I had. Knowing me there would be more stuff in it I could carry at one time, which means caching the extra goodies until I could get back to get them. Then salvage what usable parts I could, because they could be used for bartering later.
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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2013, 12:59:43 AM »
You're no fun...LMAO
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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2014, 08:49:15 PM »
So, us city dwellers should just push it to the bank, burn it, and call it a return of collateral?

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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2014, 10:41:24 PM »
 Yeah I like that idea, but inside the bank. >:D
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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2014, 09:49:20 AM »
with the vehicle I own.. burning it would be putting it out of MY misery
of all the things I,ve lost.. I miss my mind, the most

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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2014, 10:11:45 AM »
What about the feelings of your poor car? Have you taken them into account?
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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2014, 11:37:43 AM »
if it is an astro van\
chev pickup


shoot first
salvage some parts
set on fire
set on fire again


shoot it some more
burning again, may again be an option
take a picture
put it on the wall with all the other ex's in your life that screwed you over and took all your money and let you down...
ps.. may need to use two walls...
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Re: Burn and run?
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2014, 11:51:21 AM »
You guys have absolutely no empathy for the feeling of your vehicles. :o
It may never happen. Best to be prepared just in case.

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