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Food for thought (and animals)
« on: June 09, 2013, 11:11:43 AM »
Things to look at, from hard experience:
1. It takes 2 tonnes of feed to finnish 100 meat chickens
2. It takes 3 and a half tonnes to finish 100 turkeys
3. 7 tonnes of feed to keep a riding horse in good shape through the winter, 10 for large draught breeds
4.9-11 tonnes of feed for a producing milk cow(plus milking it 2x's daily)
5. 5-7 tonnes for beef cattle
6. 2 tonnes per ewe
7. 2 tonnes for a mule(not sure on that one but that was the increase in feed when he fed with the horses)
8. 2 and a half tonnes for a producing milk goat
9. 3 tonnes for 20 geese
10. 25 kg per month of dog food (big dog)
11. 3 tonnes per pig to finish

These things are all fun but how do you feed them when TSHTF

On a personal note I have had all of these animals at the same time,lots of work but worth it all. A good way to get the group working as a team. Any solutions would be apreciated
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Re: Food for thought (and animals)
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2013, 06:21:40 PM »
look to permaculture and hugleculture to work with nature and food forests to provide feed or to reduce store bought feeds.
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Re: Food for thought (and animals)
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2013, 08:05:41 PM »
Hi agaian are we the only two that post anything. Any thge feed weights that I gave were mainly for the winter when there is no pasture, and the temp drops to-40 below . Out where we live there is no fall and a very short spring the winters can last easily 8 months of the year. there is just not enough time nor able bodies for us to do this sort of thing. Apparently this has been tried in the past with a high degree of failure. Also our soil in the woods is of a poor quality with lots of muskeg around that does not support domesticated animals that well.And then there' the predator problem coyotes wolves cougars and bears( believe me when I say that I have shot more coyotes than most people see in their lives and not made a dent) I would like nothing more than to let them all out into the bush(we used bto do this in southern BC) and flourish but it will result in catastrophic losses.
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Re: Food for thought (and animals)
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2013, 10:06:46 PM »
Posting,
some of the people are on rotational shifts, Gravs in Alberta is settling into his new property and had internet issues.
The two Admins are getting a big meeting on track, so less posting there as well.

We are new, so it happens, downtime.. sorry

I take it your in Northern Alberta then? Personally there must be some way that the Permaculutre and Hugleculture could help out at least to drop feeds down 1/4 or so. Save some big coin that way.

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Re: Food for thought (and animals)
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2013, 11:24:31 PM »
Well actually you are not only two. I post on a number of boards most of which have been around for a long time with lots of members. This is a new board with few members but the conversations seem to be much more interesting.

I am a kind of numbers guy, so I have a question and I am  sorry if it offends. What does it take to "finish" a dog? Really your data would suggest that we consider this option. I know that the faithful husky member of my group may have a few objections. I will talk it over with her but I think I already know her answer.   :P
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Re: Food for thought (and animals)
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2013, 05:01:13 AM »
It does not offend me, but I'll ask our local chinese cook. Yes they do eat dog, and I will get back to you.
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Re: Food for thought (and animals)
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2013, 10:56:28 AM »
She says wice an wiver  Or was that rice and liver with veggies. Make velly velly gud dog chow something. Enjoy?
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Re: Food for thought (and animals)
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2013, 12:22:27 PM »
it's a good thing we are at the top of the food chain. 8)
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Re: Food for thought (and animals)
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2013, 08:30:16 AM »
The logistics can drive you mad, as well as the cost. Make sure that all of your pens,corrals,barns,etc... are built before you go to auction and come home with enough critters to fill Noah's ark. A small suggestion would be that you start slow. For instance build your chicken coop and pen first, aquire all of your feeders,waterers,heat lamps,bedding material, etc, before bringing them home. After they are home and growing time how long it takes you to feed them over one week. Now you'll have a starting point to make yourself more efficient. Build a corral,then a small milking shed, buy feed, buy your cow or goat. Same thing time yourself over the week. This goes on and on...Oh one more little point, do not buy a horse if you do'nt ride it every day. The whole point is make sure that you can comfortably handle the entire work load, or you will become overwhelmed and will just say f..k it.
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