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death of a nation
« on: September 08, 2015, 05:01:57 PM »
Germany can take 500,000 refugees annually for years, Vice Chancellor says      <blockquote>               Germany can take 500,000 refugees annually for years, Vice Chancellor says
Published September 08, 2015FoxNews.com


Germany's vice chancellor said his country could take in 500,000 refugees annually for the next several years, one day after Hungary's prime minister called on Berlin to close its doors to thousands from the Middle East, Africa, and Asia who have poured into Eastern Europe in an effort to reach more prosperous nations.

The BBC reported that Sigmar Gabriel also repeated demands that other European countries accept quotas designed to ensure that Germany does not have to take in the lion's share of refugees. Germany, which has the largest economy in Europe, is expecting to take in 800,000 refugees in 2015, more than four times last year's total. An estimated 20,000 refugees entered Germany via Hungary by train, bus, and on foot this past weekend alone.

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban warned in an interview with Austrian television late Monday that millions of refugees would descend upon the continent if what he called Germany's "open door" policy continued. He also claimed that many who had passed through his country via the so-called "Balkan Corridor" were not in dire straits, but rather were attracted by Germany's generous benefit programs. For that reason, Orban warned, the refugee surge risked placing an intolerable financial burden on members of the 28-nation E.U.

"As long as Europe cannot protect its external borders it makes no sense to discuss the fate of those flowing in," Orban said.

"I am happy that Germany has become a country that many people outside of Germany now associate with hope," German Chancellor Angela Merkel told a Berlin news conference Monday. "What isn't acceptable in my view is that some people are saying this has nothing to do with them. This won't work in the long run. There will be consequences although we don't want that."

Despite Merkel's steadfast support for letting in refugees, the episode has exposed tensions not only within the E.U., but within Merkel's own coalition government.

"There is no society that could cope with something like this," Bavarian premier Horst Seehofer, leader of the conservative Bavarian Christian Social Union, told Reuters. "The federal government needs a plan here."

Late Monday, Upper Bavaria government spokeswoman Simone Hilgers told the Associated Press that a total of 4,400 people have arrived in Munich, and a further 1,500 refugees were routed to other cities in Germany, including Dortmund, Hamburg and Kiel.

Reuters reported that European President Jean-Claude Juncker would unveil new plans for distributing refugees throughout the member states. Under the plan, Germany would take on more than 40,000 and France 30,000 of the 160,000 asylum seekers the European Commission says need to be relocated from Italy, Greece and Hungary, the main entry points for refugees into the E.U.

French President Francois Hollande has already pledged that his country would accept 24,000 refugees. Later Monday, Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve announced that France would immediately take in 1,000 refugees currently in Germany who are in "urgent need of protection." Cazeneuve said a French asylum team was currently at the border of Germany and Austria, near Munich, to identify the 1,000 — who had to be Syrian, Iraqi or Eritrean.

The 1,000 will be briefly lodged in the Paris region in the coming days while their asylum demands are processed, the minister said. They will then be sent to towns around France where mayors have said they are willing to take in refugees. The lodgings will be state-owned buildings, he said, and "very temporary." Cazeneuve will meet with the mayors on Saturday.

It was not immediately clear if the 1,000 counted toward the 24,000 specified by Hollande.

British Prime Minister David Cameron also said Monday that the U.K. would re-settle up to 20,000 Syrian refugees from camps in Turkey, Jordan and Syria over the next five years.

Late Monday, Hungarian Defense Minister Csaba Hende resigned amid delays in the construction of a border fence meant to keep refugees from crossing into Hungary via the country's border with Serbia.

A statement from Orban's government didn't explicitly blame Hende for the failure to complete the building of the planned 13-foot fence along the 110-mile frontier, but it was supposed to be completed by the end of last month and remains largely unfinished. Only several strands of razor wire have been placed along the full length of the border, while the higher barrier is standing only in a few areas.

In Greece, the coast guard said Tuesday its patrol vessels picked up nearly 500 migrants in 11 search and rescue missions over the past 24 hours in the eastern Aegean Sea.

The people, whose nationalities were not immediately clear, were found in small boats near the islands of Lesbos -- which accounts for nearly one in two migrant arrivals in Greece -- Samos, Kos and the islet of Agathonissi.

More than 15,000 refugees and migrants are stranded on Lesbos, awaiting screening before they can board a ferry to the Greek mainland -- from where they head north through Macedonia, Serbia and Hungary to seek asylum in more prosperous European countries.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Old folks home hit with Eur450,000 county fire ordnance fixes, private operator forced to shut it down. Six months later, county re-opens it to house 80 asylum seekers, suddenly not caring about the "fire hazard".

http://www.npd-rhein-neckar.de/?p=5248

German family of 8 forced to move out of city owned house (for which they did pay rent), to make room for 25 asylum seekers. (to be fair, the house WAS build 15 years ago as refugee housing facility)

http://www.express.de/bonn/kommunen-...ml?dmcid=sm_tw

30 tenants told to move out of city owned apartment building with three weeks notice, to make room for refugees (legal notice in Germany would have been three months, manager says, oops, I'm sorry)

http://www.noz.de/lokales/osnabrueck...-zimmer-raumen

Police in Lobenstein, Thuringia, told to vacate premises immediately, to make room for asylum seekers. Citizens 'can contact the police officer in the town hall from 7am - 9pm, or call police in Schleiz, 21 miles away"

http://www.welt.de/regionales/thueri...thaus-ein.html

Gym used to register 560 refugees who arrived by train via Hungary, students are to stay at home on Monday.

http://rudolstadt.otz.de/web/lokal/s...gen-1344878645<blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
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Re: death of a nation
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2015, 05:17:44 PM »
as a citizen.. what do you do to stop the 'cleansing' of your country.
 
politicians are the peoples voice.. (and if you beleive they speak for you.. you are f^%t)
 
politicians/lawmakers stopped representing the people many yrs ago.
 
I,m not much into global woo woo.  but I am being swayed.
 
common sense and logic have vanished from the political landscape.
 
how would you react if  'your'  gov stated, it will take in 20,000/50,000/500,000+ each yr for ??.
 
this is not like the 1950,s 60,s where immigrants came and were screened and assimilated into their chosen country.

they worked and slaved with no welfare and a LOT of animosity (no irish need apply)

but they came. and worked hard and bled for their new country.
 
these new 'refugees' (spit) WILL NOT work or contribute.. only bleed and wreak havok and DEMAND . and procreate untill their offspring are the majority.
when they become the majority..

 you are dead.

The USA has an influx of 'south of the border' folks . these folks come and either bring their families, or send for them later.
 
europe has the opposite.

80% of these refugees are young men. these young men should be back in their homeland fighting for their way of life.
 
instead
 
 they leave behind their wives and children and old folks to be devoured by the demonical hoards that we call ISIS.
 
Thes young men are cowards.
 
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Re: death of a nation
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2015, 08:48:53 PM »
Seems a reasonable number. They were moving about that many per year by the mid-40's, if I recall...
Canada brings in about 250 000 immigrants a year in total. I'm curious to see what this does to an infrastructure when you have no guarantee of transferable skills in such a massive volume of people.
What would that do to a local culture?
Germany has 80 million, so a few million here or there wouldn't be that noticeable, but Poland has half that and a place like Romania is half again. If anyone could find it on a map, Moldova only has 4. They could be completely misplaced and become refugees in their own country in a matter of weeks.
An interesting thought and no easy answers. Side with humanitarians and you could loose your home. Side with politics and you may loose your humanity.


I'm also worried that this shows normal people can no longer band together and stand up for their rights. If millions of people are unhappy about the situation and can't retaliate at those with the toys (either by lack of will or by shear technological disadvantage)... what's holding the nations back from all going over to total despotism?
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2015, 09:45:55 PM »
I'm going to lay out my opinion here and let the chips fall where they may. 
Our freedoms, laws, ethics, immigration, and even our basic democratic system works only when the participants are not Muslims.  You can call me racist, or ethno-centric all you want, but you'd be wrong.  The simple truth is that Muslims do not assimilate.  Every other migrant of another culture will, within a few short generations become Canadian, even if they continue to pay homage to their homeland. 
I say draw a line in the sand here and now and say no to them, and yes to anyone else. Let's face it...  In a few short years there will be millions of Europeans evacuating from their homelands that will need somewhere to live after the Islamic hoard rolls in.

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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2015, 09:54:17 PM »
The difference in comparing this lot of 'refugees' with prior influxes is one HUGE difference. Others who came before shared a culture. They shared a somewhat similar religion. They shared a similar set of values and norms. Islam is NOT just a religion. If it was it would be workable to invite them here. In fact it is a religion, a culture, a political system, a legal system and a way of life all rolled into one. There is no separation of church and state. The 'church' IS the state, and the law, and the cultural blueprint. It functions on a basis of control, repression, violence and intolerance. THAT is the problem along with the Left's ideal of Western guilt and the need for us to perpetually atone for the seeming wrongs NONE OF US has committed.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2015, 10:11:31 PM »
JAB, you're right about the Muslim ideology, but this isn't strictly a Christian versus Muslim cultural clash.  Many immigrants have come here that were Hindu, or Asian, or East Indian.  All kept some of their cultural identities but also embraced their new homes, even if they didn't always celebrate all our cultural or religious traditions.  In fact,they have shown us many great things about their cultures, while they are tolerant of ours.  Muslims are not tolerant in the slightest, but believe we must remove from Their sight anything they disagree with. 

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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2015, 12:23:21 AM »
@Greenguy... Hindu, East Indian, Tamil, Chinese, Jews, no other religion or culture comes to a nation and demands that nation reconstitute itself in their image. They maintain those items that are important to them and embrace those things of their new country that are also seen as good and benefitial. They come here to work, to apply themselves to become a part of the nation they adopt and that adopts them in return. Islam creates ghettos and actively seeks to NOT become part of the culture and country they come to. They demand that their host countries accommodate THEM and offer little in return. France, Denmark and Sweden are a few examples of the negative impact of Islamic immigration.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2015, 10:24:05 AM »
@Greenguy... Hindu, East Indian, Tamil, Chinese, Jews, no other religion or culture comes to a nation and demands that nation reconstitute itself in their image. They maintain those items that are important to them and embrace those things of their new country that are also seen as good and benefitial. They come here to work, to apply themselves to become a part of the nation they adopt and that adopts them in return. Islam creates ghettos and actively seeks to NOT become part of the culture and country they come to. They demand that their host countries accommodate THEM and offer little in return. France, Denmark and Sweden are a few examples of the negative impact of Islamic immigration.

You can add the UK to that list too.  Only last year Muslims attempted to take over the school system in the Midlands. They almost succeeded and Cameron had to develop legislation to prevent this from happening again. You can only protect a society if you protect the values of that society.
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2015, 01:33:43 PM »
That's why I stated previously that our democracy will not work within the framework of Muslim immigration.  They have shown time and time again in other countries (UK, France, Denmark) that they will populate an area and then use their vote to enact policies favorable to Sharia.

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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2015, 10:23:18 PM »
Indeed... the clear disconnect between what the 'leaders' want and the public will tolerate.
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