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Sleep Apnea
« on: September 03, 2014, 01:31:45 PM »
Our inability to get a good rest affects so much - how well we think, how much energy we have, how irritable we are, how well our immune system works, and how our other illnesses behave. It's important to do as much as we can to improve the quality of our sleep and reduce our dependence on medications and treatments that may not be available in an emergency or collapse scenario. Here's a link to a video on sleep apnea. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the subject :) Prepper Nurse
https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&feature=vm&video_id=6bEv8GlDq7w

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Re: Sleep Apnea
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2014, 12:49:55 AM »
I have combined obstructive and central sleep apnea. Diagnosed in 2002. I use an Adaptive Servo BiPAP machine as I cannot breathe out against the steady pressure of a CPAP. I'm running at 8psi currently. It works quite well and allows me to get good rest. But I need a 12v backup power system for it when the AC goes down, and for when I go camping.

Right now, at home, when I cannot use the Bi-PAP I use the Fowler Position in my recliner to enable me to sleep better. It really makes a difference and allows me to breathe much more effectively and efficiently than sleeping on my back or side without the Bi-PAP. Also, in the summer, without AC during the last Bug-in drill when temps were 100*F plus, being able to move the recliner right next to my balcony deck window made staying cooler much better. (Though I am going to make a bucket swamp cooler for those times, to run off the same backup power system I plan on having for the Bi-PAP.

Long term I am trying to lose weight, which will help the sleep apnea, and doing breathing exercises to increase my lung capacity.

I am not sure what else I can do, but just take the risks of not using the Bi-PAP when I am without power, until I can afford to make the power supply.

Feel free to ask questions if you have any.

Just my opinion.
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Re: Sleep Apnea
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2014, 06:15:36 AM »
Jerry...
Have you tried the wreckers for large capacity batteries?
Golf carts, fork lifts, and the larger construction equipment all use big batteries. Most of these have huge capacity and used are not good enough for starting vehicles but more than enough for your needs I think.

Another option would be a business that refurbishes batterys!
YouTube and instructables.com have lots of info on making backup and camping setups.
Best of luck ~wild_E

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Re: Sleep Apnea
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2014, 03:32:53 PM »
Thanks wild_E. I have considered things like that, but most are too big and heavy for me. I have to limit it to a 24 or 27 size battery. And I do prefer new. I just do not have much luck with used stuff.

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Re: Sleep Apnea
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2014, 04:45:55 PM »
Hey Jerry,
How much power does that machine use? 

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Re: Sleep Apnea
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2014, 05:32:53 PM »
5 amps at 12v

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Re: Sleep Apnea
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2014, 08:33:15 PM »
Good.  Not a big load at all. 8 hours of sleep a night, 40 amp hours of energy used at 12V.
A group 24 battery would work for the night.  A group 31 battery would give you two nights.
160 watts of solar would work for 3 season coverage, 320 watts would be bullet proof year round coverage.  You're in the USA, so equipment prices are lower than Canada.
I'd imagine you could have a great SHTF back-up for around $600.


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Re: Sleep Apnea
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2014, 07:17:34 PM »
I have combined obstructive and central sleep apnea. Diagnosed in 2002. I use an Adaptive Servo BiPAP machine as I cannot breathe out against the steady pressure of a CPAP. I'm running at 8psi currently. It works quite well and allows me to get good rest. But I need a 12v backup power system for it when the AC goes down, and for when I go camping.

Right now, at home, when I cannot use the Bi-PAP I use the Fowler Position in my recliner to enable me to sleep better. It really makes a difference and allows me to breathe much more effectively and efficiently than sleeping on my back or side without the Bi-PAP. Also, in the summer, without AC during the last Bug-in drill when temps were 100*F plus, being able to move the recliner right next to my balcony deck window made staying cooler much better. (Though I am going to make a bucket swamp cooler for those times, to run off the same backup power system I plan on having for the Bi-PAP.

Long term I am trying to lose weight, which will help the sleep apnea, and doing breathing exercises to increase my lung capacity.

I am not sure what else I can do, but just take the risks of not using the Bi-PAP when I am without power, until I can afford to make the power supply.

Feel free to ask questions if you have any.

Just my opinion.


AWESOME! The fowler's position -  I will try that - it makes complete sense!! Excellent idea to be very strategic wight And thank you for the detailed information about the CPAP :) Swamp bucket cooler??? I like the sounds of that!


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Re: Sleep Apnea
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2014, 07:19:07 PM »
Jerry...
Have you tried the wreckers for large capacity batteries?
Golf carts, fork lifts, and the larger construction equipment all use big batteries. Most of these have huge capacity and used are not good enough for starting vehicles but more than enough for your needs I think.

Another option would be a business that refurbishes batterys!
YouTube and instructables.com have lots of info on making backup and camping setups.
Best of luck ~wild_E
Thank you wild E - once we hit electrical I defer to those in the know :)

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Re: Sleep Apnea
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2014, 07:54:05 PM »
Bucket swamp cooler search:

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=bucket+swamp+cooler&type=2button&fr=ymyy-t-557

They only work in pretty dry, low humidity areas. But the same principle can be used for ice based A/C units.

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Re: Sleep Apnea
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2014, 12:50:59 PM »
Thank you very much Jerry!