Seeking serious preppers

[Henry]

No offence to anybody please.
After hearing at Huntsville meeting speaker from "OTARIO PREPPERS" in Barrie I realized there are actually real preppers in the area. First time I heard realistic description of a after disaster situation.
That is what I am looking for. Somebody  that is not talking what they will do (prepping) but what they DO. Not somebody that was camping few times now is teaching survival, or know how to defend himself because saw "Rambo" movies two times.
Looking for preappers that are ready to meet on REGULAR basis (to be agreed) and discus the situation, readiness, defence, communications (long and short terms)and sheared all stages of prepperednes for any disaster.
That would be very close group.
prepping is not adventure or dream.
Why do you thing 30% of guys returning from Iraqi or Afganistan  are trying or committing sue side?
They were not expecting and not ready for what they saw and experienced.
So let get ready and same time enjoy life.
Henry

[wild_E]

Good post Henry

[Mountainman]

Henry,

You can visit www.getoffthex.com - The Folks at Get Off The X, are very serious. If, you qualify you can goto their website. It is a great collection of SME's (subject material experts) on all topics concerning being prepared.

Most are South of the 49th, but you may find a few from Canada.

Hope that helps.

Mountainman.

[Henry]

I said no offence Mountainman. You mist my point completely. Sorry.
Henry

[icrcc]

Good post Henry and you have a good proposal. Count me in.

[Ranger2012]

Henry, if you think I'm worthy, count me in also, If not, no bother.
Take care and live well.

[JustABear]

Hello Henry. I would ask for inclusion as well.. so long as you believe I would be of benefit.

[Mountainman]

I said no offence Mountainman. You mist my point completely. Sorry.
Henry

Henry,

No offence taken and I hope no offence sent from me to you.

I must have misunderstood what you were seeking. I was not at the Ontario Preppers Meet. I perceived you were looking to get in contact with serious preppers. The folks at Get Of The X are some of the most serious folks I am aware of. They may have members from Ontario. You may be able to find one and network with them.

If I am totally off base here, I do apologize. Please, disregard m this post and my earlier one as well.

Mountainman.

[Henry]

Mountainman               I am sure You had reason not to be at the Ont. meet. You could hear a REAL prepper talking and some pictures to see they are Not just talking. I met some good preppers at the meet but I also talk to some so called " preppers" I do not want to waste my time with.( just being honest).My believe is that spiritually, morally and economically we are ready to collapse .Add some natural and terror disasters and I like to be ready NOW not next YEAR .
To be honest some preppers do not get what a real disaster is. Some were without hydro for few days and they called it survival.
Like I said the guy from Barrie understand it, the only different is I leave in  bush (not in the city) so my situation is slightly different so I like to put together group in the same situation.
I am sure you read some postings and had to laugh and prey for those people.
Some 20 years ago after 6 month in foreign country finally I made it home (Canada) weight  93 lbs. and mentally broken I roughly know what to prepper for. I know what it is to sit in a bush all night with 2 guys with machine guns on guard.
Henry

[wild_E]

Henry, MountainMan lives in Alberta,
last year he came across Canada and back meeting people.


This year, he was flooded out and then Tornado'ed out of his house.
just for your info, that is why he was not at the Ontario meeting

[Ranger2012]

Its funny, I just put in a reply the word "Survivalism" and the computer froze.
Anyways what I was trying to put down was.
Survivalism, is more or less a state of mind, you are either mind set to survive or let it be "The will of God", and perish. Mr. Rambo, from the meet said no one could survive by them selves. Well I believe that I could "survive" that way, but I couldn't "live" that way, and there is a difference. "Surviving", is mostly hand to mouth, and on the move. "Living" is having the time and resources to enjoy oneself in their surroundings, no matter where they are, or, who they are with. A "Person" can be alone in a Group, and become dangerous, as I said "Surviving" is a state of mind.

[Henry]

Thanks Wild-E. I do not know who is from where. I try to get the idea across.
Ranger I understand what you are saying  but being alone for too long guaranteed you loose your mind completely, especially under pressure and stress.
Henry

[Ranger2012]

I just watched "Alone in the wild" on YouTube. After/during watching it, I realized that this guy is not a survivalist, but an ADVENTURIST. BIG difference. First couple days said it all, "Saw a moose, it was close enough to kill but that would have been illegal" Saw a squirrel, but it was too cute to kill. First of all the guy went in there with his hands tied legally, couldn't kill the moose that was 30 days worth of food. Sorry, but in his case I would have gotten special permission for an all exclusion hunting license, or have someone drop off the equivalent of caribou from a game farm. The guy cried most of the time, he didn't belong there, and, and, he had pre-arranged food drop if his heart rate went too low. This was a experiment, destined to fail.

[Gravlore]

Prepping means many things to many people. Some think of it as making it in the bush and others in the city. They both pose challenges that either side of the debate should consider brutal and hard. The tribes of the rain forest think we probably stink since most of us would not be able to survive with just a machete or a sharp rock for cutting. Its all relative to what you are able to do with the least amount of resource as to who one may think is prepared. Mental thought and creativity and skill trump items and their quantity.

[Ranger2012]

When I was in "Boot camp" in Cornwallis "74" we went on a bivac in the boonies. 10 groups of 3, and 6 axes. My comrades were not quick enough to grab one while I was grabbing some pre-cut saplings. I improvised, with a suitable piece of slate and a green branch, and made a crude and semi-effective axe in which I was able to trim the saplings for support poles. After I was nearly finished, one of the instructors came by with an axe, and I told him we didn't need it any more. He looked at what I was using, smiled, nodded, and walked away. Later, I heard a comment while I was going past a few of the instructors, "There's the cave man I told you about" at first I was offended , until I thought about it, and it was a compliment of a sort, because he was the one that saw me with my stone axe.
I have always said, "If you haven't what you need, use what you have."

[Henry]

Now we got over who is serious prepper I like to hear some ideas on where we could find place for regular meets. it could be private land or government land. I was even thinking if somebody is thinking of buying land and can not afford to develop it we could be helping to do it and same time have a little corner for meets. (just thinking)
I am sure we can come up with something and it would so nice meet every so often and discuses some ideas in private and in person.
Henry

[JustABear]

Hello Henry. I am very interested in what you propose. I live in Southern Ontario... Caledonia to be exact. It is near Hamilton. I do not have the financial resources at this time to invest in property. I do however have the attitude, knowledge, experience and personality to become part of a group that is serious about preparing to survive whatever may come. I believe as members of a group we must all share the same basic attributes of beliefs, moral compass, position in life, tolerance etc. In saying this I am not relating to religion or religious belief. What I am alluding to is that each of us sees membership in the group the same as membership in the tribe. THAT would ultimately be what this will be. A tribe of people who work together for a common purpose. Contributing what we can be it knowledge, labor or resources. In the end everyone is the same. Each eats when all eat, each works when all work. No one is above or below another. Again...not democracy or socialism per se. Just that all are expected to contribute as all are expected to sacrifice if it ever comes to that. Leaders will evolve over time. Some elected related to ability.. some as related to experience. I hope I am making sense here ..LOL.. and that I am being clear. This is just my vision of what your are proposing. I look forward to your response as well as from others. I would be willing and able to meet once a month.

Thoughts?

[Henry]

You are right JustAbear.
Right now in the prep. community there is no consciences how ,where  or under what condition if anything happen we can meet.
Community is the base of survival after "shift".
After any big disaster first there is SHOCK when everybody tries to understand what happened than PANIC sets in and survival of the fittest starts.( the killing starts) After  short time the real straggle starts and that when PREPPING start paying off. That when community and numbers are important.
Henry

[wild_E]

Henry, +1 Karma for definition of when Prepping relly starts and life observations.
thank you

[JustABear]

Henry. As the OP I wish to ask you... with the comments that have been put forward... where do you want this to go from here?