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« on: July 07, 2013, 02:27:56 PM »
So I was following some links from another site (no.. not that one, another nice one for cheap people! ) and came across these radios

Midland XT511 GMRS Two-Way Emergency Crank Radio

Product Features
Emergency radio with 22 GMRS/FRS channels and all 10 NOAA weather channels with alert function
  • Includes AM/FM radio reception, a clock with an alarm function, and a 3-LED flashlight
  • Features VOX automatic voice-activated operation, and a USB port for charging cell phones, radios, etc.
  • Rechargeable battery can be powered by dynamo hand crank, or included AC or DC power adapters
  • Constructed to be water resistant, and backed by a manufacturer's 3-year warranty
and
http://www.amazon.com/Kaito-Voyager-KA600-Digital-Emergency/dp/B0051QJJ1E/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1373076345&sr=8-9&keywords=shortwave%20radio%A0&tag=vglnk-c930-20

and
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0051QJJ1E/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new&qid=1373076345&sr=8-9

So What do Ya'll think, EH ?
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Re: Radios
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2013, 02:55:34 PM »
They look good...but... and there is always a but. I agree with the phylosophy of having multiple uses for equipment but I also believe that sometimes dedicated equipment is best. I would prefer a dedicated handheld 2 way radio. a separate flashlight and a general radio with am/fm/sw/weather band capability. These are all very important things to have and they need to be functional. If you have everything in one item and it goes kaput you are screwed.

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Re: Radios
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2013, 03:09:13 AM »
I've been looking for a handcrank radio but just can't seem to find one(I don't shop online)!!
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Re: Radios
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2013, 11:40:01 AM »
I there is a "The Source" (old radio shack) near you they carry this.
http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=Weather+Radios&product=8009238

It will probably do what you need.

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Re: Radios
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2013, 11:49:08 AM »
I have a different Elton model. I did not buy it from the Source but I have had it for a few years. It is well made and has never let me down.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2013, 12:03:03 PM »
Thanks!  Never crossed my mind to go to an electronics store heh.  Been looking at big box/outdoor/surplus stores.
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2013, 12:06:38 PM »
LOL... Like hands... many minds make light work... or something like that. If they don't have it in stock they can order it for you. Call ahead to save the time and gas.

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Re: Radios
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2013, 06:58:28 PM »
22 GMRS/FRS channels and all 10 NOAA weather channels with alert function

that is what I liked the most about the radios, variations in functionality. Lights, not useless but by far usefull normally.

Yes, too many functions but a good starter point and more powerful than the regular little hand held jobies.
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Re: Radios
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2013, 02:59:34 AM »

For the newbies  :)

Canada wide list of repeaters…it is very useful to print repeater numbers in your area. .. http://www.repeaterbook.com/

How to choose your first radio. http://www.eham.net/newham/firstradio

Radioworld – radios and every accessory you can think of to buy http://radioworld.ca/amateur-c-184.html
Or this store http://www.ntfc.ca/AboutCompany.htm

Explaining the Confusion of Frequencies and Channels with FRS & GMRS Radios
http://codegreenprep.com/2013/03/explaining-the-confusion-of-frequencies-and-channels-with-frs-gmrs-radios/

 http://prepperbroadcasting.com/

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Re: Radios
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2013, 01:07:01 PM »
No direct experience with either of those two radios in the OP, but I have heard a few negatives about the Midland.

I have Oregon Scientific handheld rechargeable All Hazards S.A.M.E. alert weather radio and highly recommend the brand. I have a couple of crank up radios, both $40 radios that I got after Y2K for $10 apiece. They were okay at the time, but have not held up well, with the internal fixed batteries failing after about ten years, and the light included was pre-LED tech and not only not very bright, but an energy hog. So I am in the process of replacing them with the Oregon Scientific WR-203 All Hazards S.A.M.E. alert wind up weather radio w/LED light. This radio, unlike many of the crank ups, does have the standby alert setting so you don't have to be listening to the weather radio constantly for alerts and can be doing other things confident that if there is an alert, the system will sound off and give the warning.  http://www.oregonscientific.com/us/en/Advanced-Portable-Emergency-Alert-Radio-WR203-P

You will need more lights than radios, so here is the crank light I plan to get a few of to supplement my six Energizer WeatherReady crank up lights. It uses capacitors for power storage, so there isn't the problem of rechargeable batteries eventually failing. It is the LightStorm CL-1: http://www.brightguy.com/find/quick_search[0]=LightStorm%20CL-1%20Crank%20Flashlight%20with%20Ultra-Capacitor%20technology%20-%20no%20batteries%20required
While I do buy from selected sellers on the internet, I used to pay a couple dollars premium for stores to order in things for me that they didn't stock, but had a source. Even having a fellow prepper friend do the online purchase and helping them out in some way might be worth it to get the best item at the best value.

Note: From the looks of the post you will have to copy and paste the CL-1 flashlight link as the software is truncating it at the

Just my opinion.
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2013, 05:40:18 PM »
To expand this topic. Receivers and transceivers. You will need both. You need the ability to get news both locally and from more distant locations. A good receiver is what you need for this. Multi Band... AM/FM/SW ... as previously discussed. Crank power, rechargeable batteries; either is workable. One thing to have available for this is an external antenna that you can attach to the built in will extend your range immensely. This can be easily made with some wire and an alligator clip. All you need to be able to do is extend it at a height and clip it to the radio. Simple, cheap, functional.

Transceivers can be as simple as the FRS/GMRS radios you can get at Canadian Tire. Range is very limited but they will provide you with a local 2 way communication device as well as allow others to contact you on a pre designated channel. This type of radio has a built in antenna which is virtually impossible to change/improve. What you can do is to acquire any portable/hand held radio that will operate in the frequency range and have it programmed to a few of the GMRS channels. This will give you a higher transmission power as well as the ability to use different antennas which will improve your range both in receive and transmit.
FRS/GMRS radios share the same channels/frequencies. Channel 1 on one manufacturer will be channel 1 on another so there is no problem with unit to unit communication.
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2013, 06:00:43 PM »
All,

This topic is expanding well. Lots of knowledge being shared and exchanged.

Just to blend two topics together for a moment, if you have seen the video in the security section shared by Above All, Adapt;  http://www.activistpost.com/2012/01/only-two-types-of-people-will-survive.html  ; you have an idea of what the possible threats may be out there. The person in the video speaks about monitoring comms and observing security practices before they attack a site. So, with this in mind......COMMSSEC - Communications Security, there is a place for low power/wattage radios, medium and high powered, too. For area defence low power keep from exposing your site to others who many be seeking you. Thus, they have to get very close to start monitoring your transmissions. If you are using radios with too much power, the bad guys will start looking for you sooner.

So, keep messages short and to the point. Use code, if you can. Change frequencies often. If you have channel hopping ability on your radios, use it. If you know CW/morse code use it. If you can send/receive encrypted digital, use that.

There is a purpose and use for all types of radios, just use them for the correct purpose.

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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2013, 03:21:48 PM »
Does anyone know where to get antennas for 2 way radios (motorolas) that would extend their range?
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2013, 03:28:16 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2013, 08:19:02 PM »
yesterdays power outtage ...24 hrs.. I used a kaito similar mdl to listen to the updates. have had this handcrank radio for 5 yrs and only used it twice. both times..power outtages.
tried putting batteries into it but either it didnt like them or they were dead.
this radio cost less than $50 when i got it.. online
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2013, 12:37:07 AM »
Does anyone know where to get antennas for 2 way radios (motorolas) that would extend their range?

Are you talking extending the transmitting range somewhat with a different antenna attached to the radio or an external, possibly vehicle mounted antenna? Alternately you could be talking about a much larger permanent antenna which would considerably increase receiving capabilities. It will depend on the purpose, the model of radio and the frequencies being used.  A little more information and I am sure that we can point you in the right direction.
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2013, 01:00:37 PM »
Does anyone know where to get antennas for 2 way radios (motorolas) that would extend their range?

Are you talking extending the transmitting range somewhat with a different antenna attached to the radio or an external, possibly vehicle mounted antenna? Alternately you could be talking about a much larger permanent antenna which would considerably increase receiving capabilities. It will depend on the purpose, the model of radio and the frequencies being used.  A little more information and I am sure that we can point you in the right direction.

Hey icrcc  :)

I am looking for something that would reach about 20km, so lets say 40km range to be sure that it will work (hilly area for sure) {not that increasing the range will help with hills but...}. So I was looking at getting a different antenna for my Motorola 355 little 2 way radios but it doesn't seem like theres such a thing; besides the antennas on these radios don't screw off anyways.

so now I am looking @ wide area communications..
http://www.motorolasolutions.com/US-EN/Business+Product+and+Services/Two-Way+Radios+and+Pagers+-+Business/Portable+Radios/Wide+Area+Communications

what were you thinking of icrcc (+ others?) ?  :)
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2013, 01:40:23 PM »
What you now get with the Motorola 355 is as good as it will likely get. They advertise that they have a 35 mile.  Really? Probably not even a calm lake on a good day when Venus is in conjunction. In real life in average conditions they might be good up to a couple of KM.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2013, 01:48:55 PM »
Motorola do make excellent radios. The MOTOTRBO XPR 7000 for example. For many of these radios you would need a licence plus they may exceed the legal limit for output in Canada without a licence. The Downside is of course the price. Why not go with a Baofeng UV 5 series radio? They are great little radios at an unbeatable price.
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2013, 03:08:34 PM »
lol, yes the range they advertise is so not what happens...

the website listing these radios don't list the price..im not willing to spend a whole lot either.

do you mean this one icrcc?
what range do you get with them in very hilly areas?


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