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Prepping => Communications => Topic started by: Greenguy on August 06, 2013, 12:37:38 PM

Title: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on August 06, 2013, 12:37:38 PM
Let me preface this topic with some background.  The other day I was driving around in the country.  While driving, I noticed that almost all of the properties had a big mural on the barn.  The murals on the various barns were similar, but not exactly the same.  They were geometric, quilt-like patterns.  I have no idea what they mean.  Maybe they're just like a coat of arms for the family names.  Maybe they don't mean anything.   
So, as my brain likes to wander, I thought about what it would be like to have signs like these that would be identifiable to other preppers.  Sometimes you wouldn't want to advertise, but sometimes you would.  Like, what if you needed something?  The sign would be able to non-verbally indicate to other preppers what you need, and what you would trade.
Nothing specific, just in general. 
What if the main areas of prepping were assigned universal colors like green for food, or blue for water.
What if these symbols were mixed into one of the barn murals I saw?
What if these symbols were used in a SHTF situation in public to identify someone able to barter with you?  If you have the color needed to fill the pie shaped symbol of someone else, and you see they have something you need, then you may be able to go over to them and talk to them about it.
I know that OPSEC would be a concern, so maybe it wouldn't work.  I am curious what you think though.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on August 06, 2013, 07:51:38 PM
Greenguy,

I like the way you are thinking.

Here are my thoughts. As previously discussed amongst us here on this forum, any rendition of a triangle within a circle is slowly being accepted as a symbol that can be used to identify us among the others. Your avatar, Ranger's avatar and the logo I used for my book, all use some form of a triangle within a circle. So, it would be conceivable that some form of those images within a mural would post who or what you are.

Establishing a colour code such as you have presented will work if, and I mean a big IF, during the times of plenty we in this community share the colour code with others of the same stripe. Blue = Water. Green = Food. Yellow = Fuel. Red = Power. I am not sure that is what you had in mind. But if you want others to understand the message, some form of codification (standardized code - universally know) must be established ahead of time.

On the Opsec side of this equation. I have two concerns.

1) You are the land owner wishing to trade barley or wheat. You use your barn mural to "advertise". It is a harsh winter and a band of travelers are passing through. They are short of feed for their horses/livestock. Time has passed and the colour code has become well know by those who have survived (whatever the event was.) They know you have or had feed, enough to paint it on to the side of the barn. They are desperate and they are armed. They come in the middle of the night, after staking out the farm for a week to learn your security procedures. They out number you. They are more desperate than you. By morning they have all that you once had. This is a common type scenario that most fear in a post SHTF or WROL type world.

2) Second scenario. You and yours have been driven a nomadic existence. Although, protective of your own you are not known to be of a marauding nature. You come upon a remote farm/ranch/village. The fly banners and have murals painted that you understand to mean they have water and food a plenty. You and a group of yours goes forth to trade for food and water. Only one little problem, this community uses the code to lure in bait. They slaughter to trading party and then send out a patrol of raiders who slaughter or enslave the remainder of your group.

Not meaning to be a fear monger, but from an Opsec point-of-view.......you have to be ready for all possibilities

In general, I do like the idea. For a starting point of networking and developing a loose method to communicate I see merit in pursuing this thought process. From an Opsec standpoint, we should all be thinking about and developing SOP's to handle this. And not just from the two scenarios I wrote above.

Please, post your thoughts on this. The more we discuss this now, the better prepared we will be in the future if/when we have to deal with this for real.

Mountainman. 
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on August 08, 2013, 12:13:06 PM
I've continued to think about this idea.  I agree with Mountainman that signage on your property would be ill advised due to the potential danger of attracting the wrong crowd.   Then I got to thinking about using colored items as symbols when you're in a crowd.   I did a google search on colored handkerchiefs and it appears that the LGBT community is way ahead of me.  You can look it up the meanings of colored handkerchiefs yourself, but basically if I had extra water and wanted to show it by tying a blue handkerchief to my body, then I might draw the attention of someone for an ENTIRELY different reason! :)
Clearly, more thought is needed....
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: wild_E on August 08, 2013, 12:37:26 PM
Well Greenguy,
this sounds like an adventure to be sure, in more ways than one!
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: NObshere on August 12, 2013, 09:31:58 AM
Don't laugh (as I am doing right now) but perhaps a chalk mark on a post or boulder or some such thing in corporated with a pass word would be of use. This could be a daily rotating password for each day of the week followed by your handle. It would also require you to get within site of anyone's hold out, thereby not giving up the location or meaning of the mark.(Also helps with the landowner's security in IDing friend or foe, may also help in not getting your  ass shot off)

Just a suggestion...
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 12, 2013, 09:50:09 AM
The Hobos have a language made up of signs they can place anywhere with pencil, chalk or even in the dirt. A lot of them are universal and have simple meaning. I doubt many others would be aware of them or their meaning. Something to consider.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on August 12, 2013, 09:31:13 PM
The Boy Scout's use to be trained in "trail sign", both reading and leaving messages. Of course, it is Scouts today, both young men and young women are members.

Not sure how many Scout Troops still read the old 1908 version of the Scout Handbook written by B.P. himself. Trail Sign was very important during the African Wars and the days on the American Frontier; not to mention during the Fur Wars - HBC, NWC and AFC.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: NObshere on August 15, 2013, 03:21:04 PM
Found it:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/29558/29558-h/29558-h.htm
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on August 15, 2013, 06:35:18 PM
Nobs,

Great find, an e-Book copy of the BSA Manual. Around {209} is the info on trail sign.

Mountainman.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: NObshere on August 15, 2013, 06:43:12 PM
Yeah I was perusing the ads in the back of the book, and seen that even ads were written in prose form then. I love books that are written in prose, our language is devolving not evolving, sign of the times I would venture..LOL
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: kelee877 on August 17, 2013, 08:15:59 PM
I got the knick name on another forum of green dotted kelee...and I do sewing if you are in my area and see the you know what in my jeep window ..its a green dot with a smilie face

and can I make a suggestion something like this should be in a dungeon room for members eyes only, you don't want everyone to know what you signal is

If you ever get a chance read the book "The Miracle of the Scarlet Thread" yes its a Bible read,but it is about old times and how men would make a covenant and slice their arms as a show of strength

I always though making braclets and sending them to each other when SHTF we could recognize each other by the braclets

Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on August 17, 2013, 08:37:30 PM
Kelee,

I respect your suggestion of using hushed tones in darken rooms for sharing identifying signs. I think many like-minded folks have been observing Opsec (operational security) for so long they have isolated themselves from each other. Many recognize that the times, they are a changing. The time for ultra-hush-hush security is behind us. If in fact, strength is in numbers, then many like-minded folks need to network for all they are worth. Because, without a network of friendly folks, you could cease to exsist and no one would come to your assistance or worse, no one would know.

We should all practice Opsec when dealing with others, until we know them. In a post-SHTF world, I would say even more so. But we also have a challenge of getting word out to as many like-minded folks that there is a generally accepted symbol to identify each other.

The use of para-cord bracelets could work. They are fashionable at the moment.

Some version of a triangle inside a circle, is gathering momentum. Simple. Easy to fashion from many materials. Colour and designs left to each individual. That makes it harder to control in times of oppression. Hard to outlaw 10,000 different versions.

But you are right, not everyone viewing this is like-minded or potentially friendly. But with so many forums, we may be lost in the volume of forums to search.

The time has come for us to venture out of the shadows. Those of us who are like-minded, will establish contact with each other. Those who look to suppress the common person from being prepared to care for their family during natural disasters or man-made crises, will be frustrated by how many we are.

Mountainman.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: kelee877 on August 18, 2013, 05:17:56 AM
Mountainman

You are right in your words above..I guess I have been doing this in my area alone for such a long time..I have tried to explain to others in this own that there could be an economic collapse or emergency that they need to be prepared for and well most of them just bury their heads and hush me like nothing like that will ever happen here or in this lifetime...most of the people I know that prep are in the States and are a far distance from me...

Well for every ones info then my marker is a green dot( I came across round dots at the dollar store years ago) and it has a happy face with black marker and on the back it says green dotted kelee..I use suction cups and it is in the front window of my jeep..

If you do display this in your front window of your vehicle you may want to make a few extras, the one I had in my vehicle(I just bought the jeep) finally gave out being in the sunlight for many years it crumbled..I have my new one sitting right beside me and will be putting it up today

In my forum I have sent out many of these to members who have requested them most of them sent to the USA....

If I may suggest keep your sign simple especially if you are going to be doing some sewing on it, I do sewing and come SHTF a detailed signal would be even harder to sew on a threadle sewing machine, or if possible as I have said above make up as many as you can in advance, to give or exchange for another signal, and as replacements

Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: wild_E on August 18, 2013, 10:55:43 AM
After listening to Che talk at the Ontario Prepper meeting on the old Hobo signs, my thoughts run too, why re-invent the wheel?
Use Rangers circle sign or ICRCC's penny sign and then use Hobo signs. Who knows them anymore anyways? I will ask Che to do a post in the Campfire section on Hobo signs.

I like this topic, thank you!
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on August 20, 2013, 12:41:30 PM
The Boy Scout's use to be trained in "trail sign", both reading and leaving messages.

I love this book!  I've downloaded the book and have been going through it.  The old Indian markers are great!  Simple, yet effective communication for those coming down the trail after you.  Anyone not versed in them will pay no mind.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Ranger2012 on August 20, 2013, 02:56:59 PM
Green guy and I have basically the same symbol for a Prepper recognition symbol, and yet we are very different. I think Both can and should be used. I like using mine because it can indicate a few things. First being, directions to a meeting place, marked on a sign post using crayon (can be erased). Shown up side could indicate distress or danger. I have given a few of these out to a few choice individuals, and am arranging to distribute (free) to others by the leaders groups. These can be set on your keyring or hung about your neck. If you want one contact me or make your own, mine is burnt on scrap leather. My avatar is what it looks like.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: kelee877 on August 20, 2013, 04:04:21 PM
These are the ones I made and sent out mostly to members I have from the states..I took the circles apart hemmed the edges and ut the happy faces on them when they were mailed out..the ones I am holding one of them is the front window of my jeep

Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on August 21, 2013, 02:59:42 PM
Howdy All,

Last night I altered my G.O.O.D. Plan logo to more tactical colours. Please let me know what you think.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4x5CyQnugKw/UhT6LtkOMJI/AAAAAAAAAjs/Hzt-Lwv5Xl4/s1600/a+GOOD+Tactical+Logo.jpg)

Drop by: www.thegoodplanblog.blogspot.ca to have a look at the first version of The G.O.O.D. Plan logo in Yellow and Blue.

Cheers,

Mountainman.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: wild_E on August 21, 2013, 07:48:22 PM
MntnMan
very nice, now it needs a little Motto maybe something like the Roman Legionaries used; “Strenght and honor” Latin, “Virtus et Honor”                       
Or Pro Patria
 ;)

Or the Canadian Infantry Motto   Ducimus Latin "We Lead"






Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on August 22, 2013, 05:47:59 PM
WildE,

I will informally adopt: Semper Paratus as a motto.

It means, always prepared.

MM.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: wild_E on August 22, 2013, 07:03:09 PM
That is coolio like someone I know recently said to me.. LOL


The patch just needed a little motto I thought!
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 22, 2013, 10:38:17 PM
Lets take a poll. How many want to adopt MM's logo as depicted here as our "patch" with the Semper Paradus motto? I will start

Yea
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Ranger2012 on August 23, 2013, 03:31:31 AM
Canadian Combat Engineers

Quo fas et gloria d u c u n t (Latin, "Whither right and glory lead")
Ubique (Latin, "Everywhere")

"We're here, we're there, we're Everywhere, so Beware!   ;)

I swear the Language editor here is viscous..
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on August 23, 2013, 07:52:07 AM
Not sure if MM is offering the image for our use, but I agree it's cool and would adopt it if allowed.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 23, 2013, 09:52:55 AM
Good point Greenguy. I apologize for any mistaken assumption. I will stand down until we hear from MM on this.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: icrcc on August 23, 2013, 10:15:09 AM
I have to say I like them all! Who's says there has to be just one?

As a base sign for prepping I like Greenguys, it is my favourite. I would like to see this one used for rallying points for networks or at prepper events .

As a day to day wearable ID badge I still like my idea for a copper penny pin, for the lapel, you ball cap whatever. Low key, easily explained and to drawing too much attention with non-preppers.

For conditions when a versatile signage/ID is required I like Rangers and Mountainmans, both of these are very close to each other. These can have at least four orientations each with their own meaning in a SHTF situation.

Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: icrcc on August 23, 2013, 10:54:36 AM
How about this?  :o
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: kelee877 on August 23, 2013, 11:32:10 AM
and the motto can be

I,m a prepper,he,s(she,s) a prepper...wouldn't you like to be a prepper too

edited to change our to the(I,m the newbie so still have to hang back for a bit)
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 23, 2013, 12:28:50 PM
A large part of who we are is a result of our independent nature and our ability to think outside the box. That to a large degree is what prepping is about. Critical thinking, rational and logical application of ideas, not going with the flow, trust and faith in our own thoughts and beliefs, the willingness to be different... and perhaps a touch of healthy paranoia regardless of what our particular focus might be. In many cases that has lead us to be somewhat loners or at least extremely careful in sharing who we are and what we are about. This is a good thing. Sometimes though, a level of conformity is a better way to go. We should develop a standard "sign" or at least a base design for that sign that can be universally recognized by preppers wherever you might be. The "fluff" of the badge or patch or pin can be as different as each of us is... but the core should be the same. I think the triangle motif is solid and recognizable regardless of how one may choose to embellish it. To the public it would be many different presentations but to us there would be one underlying clear core. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on August 23, 2013, 12:30:34 PM
I like the idea of thousands of versions of the a prepper sign. That allows for individual input, taste, style, or whatever and holding to the idea.

I am sure Dr. Prepper would be proud of all the loyal preppers who remember the jingle!!!

As for using a sign/symbol based on the one I am using with The G.O.O.D. Plan, including the Semper Paratus; I do not have a problem with that. If anyone asks please tell to visit my blog, so they can learn where the logo came from. Maybe, they will want to buy a copy of my book????

But, like I said, it would be more powerful to have thousands upon thousands of symbols based on the triangle inside the circle. The rebel type may want to go with the triangle over the circle. But right now we have the luxury of discussing what shapes, ideas, symbols we want to identify each other, in times of SHTF.

Mountainman.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on August 23, 2013, 12:41:21 PM
Not sure if MM is offering the image for our use, but I agree it's cool and would adopt it if allowed.

Greenguy,

Thanks for the vote. I like your version, too. In fact, it was your version that helped spur me to muck with the colour spectrum of my logo for the book.

But each of us has our own way of creating the shapes/symbols, they are all the same and at the same time they are all different. Make perfect sense in a paradoxical kind of way.

The first time this topic was discussed on another forum, it was laughed down and brushed away........no secret handshakes, no secret symbols. However, for networking in a mixed crowd, some symbol does help to reduce the time necessary to meet the folks you may want to talk to, and maybe network with in the future. This discussion, is in the open amongst like-minded folks trying to solve a communication and networking issue. Not a bunch of dark robes, hiding in a candle-lit cave formulating some devious plan of world domination.

Just a few thoughts,

Mountainman.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 23, 2013, 12:52:55 PM
To move this ahead then... shall we take a poll on using the triangle/circle motif as a base and personal embellishment as the individual sees fit?

Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on August 23, 2013, 01:15:02 PM
For complete disclosure purposes, it should be noted that my symbol is not my design.  It was developed from a badge offered on this site:
http://www.obamaprepper.com/current-auctions/universal-prepper-patch-badge-multicam-survival

The seller goes into detail about the meaning behind the symbol.  He also stated that the design was open to copy so I did my own version with design program I have.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 23, 2013, 01:18:27 PM
Thank you Greenguy. That said... are people interested and willing to commit to one general motif as discussed? Circle and triangle with individual embellishment.

How say you? Yea or Nay
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on August 23, 2013, 02:42:55 PM
Yea!!


Greenguy,

Disclosure endorsed. Still a neat design.

Mountainman.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: wild_E on August 23, 2013, 03:00:36 PM
When People post info on the web, it would be good for them to use Paragraphs! That is hard to read and even look at!
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: thecrownsown on August 23, 2013, 03:02:56 PM
Yea.  I Like the idea of a small discrete symbol.

But I've seen this symbol (triangle inside a square) in a variety of other applications....it is used in Freemasonry (btw..what you guys/gals are talking about using a hidden symbol in plain sight is very familiar to masons)  and I think the symbol was in that Tom Cruise movie "oblivion."  Its also used on a coin by Alcoholics Anonymous...and I've seen the concept used (not exactly like above) used by Restoration companies..I believe they have a triangle within a circle denoting Water, Fire, Smoke or something like that..  So, you might get approached from other loosely connected groups inquiring about the badge. :)

I think...and its just an assumption, like other groups....preppers can usually sense each other out.  Think of the lingo thats commonly used here....how you talk, your interests, etc.    Its not necessarily clandestine, or secret, but when you travel in certain circles you pick up that lingo, and end up using it.  Think of walking in Christian Circles, or your particular relgious group, if your into automotive or electronics....you have your particular lingo.

That being said, I like the idea.  Both greenguys and MM's badge are nice.  My vote is for either.




Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 23, 2013, 03:24:06 PM
To have a degree of ambiguity is just that much better... someone approaches you and asks... "blah blah... whatever" If it isn't prepper related you can divert the conversation away from the topic and be discrete. If the person recognizes it for what it is then you can explore. The fact that it may not be a direct sign to a prepper is great in my books. We are voting on one or the other... just on the loose base...IE circle and triangle.. then to be enhanced as the individual wishes keeping the base representation clear.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: thecrownsown on August 23, 2013, 03:31:48 PM
good points. 
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: icrcc on August 23, 2013, 04:34:00 PM
Ok how about a T-shirt with the title "I'm a stranded prepper"?  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 23, 2013, 04:50:11 PM
Hmmmmm... if we made it in camo it would be a little more subtle... right?!!!!!!
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: NObshere on August 23, 2013, 08:09:11 PM
Or how about a flourescent orange shirt with hivis print that says hey I got the stuff you want ...LOL
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: wild_E on August 23, 2013, 08:46:58 PM
Ok how about a T-shirt with the title "I'm a stranded prepper"?  :) :) :) :)
I ain't a never gonna wear a Prreeeepppeerrr tshirt ! Especially one that says I am stranded, why not just paint cross hairs on the thing while your at it!
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on August 23, 2013, 11:33:47 PM
Hmmmmm... if we made it in camo it would be a little more subtle... right?!!!!!!

Maybe it should be pink camo, and a second text on the back could say, " I have lost my way"

This topic is getting crazier by the hour, is it a full moon tonight?? :)

MM.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: icrcc on August 24, 2013, 12:14:46 AM
"This topic is getting crazier by the hour, is it a full moon tonight?? " :)

Close. ;)
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 24, 2013, 11:09:11 AM
Levity aside...LMAO... we are voting on the idea of adopting the circle / triangle motif as a base for a prepper "sign". There are 4 people voting to adopt. What does everyone else think?
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: kelee877 on August 24, 2013, 12:32:02 PM
Levity aside...LMAO... we are voting on the idea of adopting the circle / triangle motif as a base for a prepper "sign". There are 4 people voting to adopt. What does everyone else think?

Is it easy to sew :o
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 24, 2013, 12:39:33 PM
Please see above.. both Greenguy and MM have examples. It wouldn't need to be followed exactly... just the circle / triangle motif as a base. Each individual can embellish it as they wish so long as the base is clearly discerned.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: wild_E on August 24, 2013, 12:47:49 PM
Rangers Design is harder to see as it was a pic taken on a phone of Leather with burnt in logo.


So it is easily doable.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: NObshere on August 24, 2013, 07:08:21 PM
Sounds good to me( It's not flourescent is it?)
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 24, 2013, 07:37:35 PM
Sounds good to me( It's not flourescent is it?)

You can make it in any colors you wish... the base design is what matters... circle and triangle. The relationship and embellishments are up to you but keeping it close to what is depicted will help others recognize you as a prepper.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: kelee877 on August 24, 2013, 08:16:04 PM
Sounds good to me( It's not flourescent is it?)

You can make it in any colors you wish... the base design is what matters... circle and triangle. The relationship and embellishments are up to you but keeping it close to what is depicted will help others recognize you as a prepper.

I,m going to keep mine green and instead of the smilie face I will put a black triangle in the center( I can't change my nickname "green dotted kelee"

I have brooch back pins going to make some to pin on also...(yea I,m a crafty thing I am)
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 24, 2013, 09:21:19 PM
Perfect... and yes indeedyyyy... you DO seem to be a crafty thing...LOLOL

Am I correct in assuming that the majority wish to go with this... circle / triangle motif and the rest is up to the individual...?
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: zeker on August 25, 2013, 08:06:53 AM
"Hmmmmm... if we made it in camo it would be a little more subtle... right?!!!!!!"

 this ^^was my first thot.. I am slave to camo.. nearly all of my clothes are some form or another.. thats not necessarily a good thing.. could be a target or ident .

I vote yea.

I have one of kelees green dots. ty kel.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: zeker on August 25, 2013, 08:09:16 AM
and.. yes.. she is crafty.. if I told you how I know, I,d hafta kill ya..
or else, she would kill me.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: wild_E on August 25, 2013, 09:06:13 AM
Just a reminder that there is another thread along the same lines.


http://canampreppers.net/forum/index.php?topic=156.new;topicseen#new (http://canampreppers.net/forum/index.php?topic=156.new;topicseen#new)


There is also another contender, for a different reason, the penny on a lapel pin. Please go and take a look see folks.
cheers
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 25, 2013, 12:44:41 PM
I just had a thought... Hey... it DOES happen once in a while..... If we adopt BOTH we can use them this way.... One or the other is a sign the person is probably a prepper. Used TOGETHER they are DEFINITELY  a prepper.  That is what I will be doing. Thanks for the reminder Wild_E

Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: kelee877 on August 25, 2013, 05:30:16 PM
I bought some foam sheets today at the dollar store

app size (cause my tape measure is somewhere in the house and I slipped the disk in my back again today)...8 inches by 5 inches...50 in a pack for 3 dollars

10 different colors...I have pin backs..I am going to cut a square out of the foam and draw a black triangle on it with black marker...glue the circle to the pin back..will do the same with larger signs needed..these can be glued to sticks or tied...if I need them thicker I will glue 2 sheets together...or I will be Zip Lock Rona staple gun survivor and staple a few of them together :o

This is just an idea have to do the actual...I'll have to get one of the kids to go up the ladder to get my other supplies down..

P.S I will be using the green ones first of course....

suction cups..also...and of course wear the pin backs..on hats or clothing...also if I have to bug out these are very light can get wet and I could use cord or wire and find a stick to attach them too...so if we are walking we can carry it...
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Ranger2012 on August 29, 2013, 03:54:31 AM
As far as signs within signs, we older folk, would still remember the triangle within the circle as CIVIL DEFENCE. The Eye within a Triangle is Masons. Mine is just a tree within a circle, just like a Boy scout badge for forestry. Greenguy is closer to the Civil Defense symbol.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: NObshere on August 29, 2013, 07:25:13 AM
Well...would someone just order up a bunch and sell them to the rest of us, then their would be peace.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: thecrownsown on August 29, 2013, 07:43:21 AM
Agreed.  Let me know the cost, and where to mail the cheque or pick up the badge/pin.

Or, if a template is made please post so we can scan and bring it to a local shop to make.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: icrcc on August 29, 2013, 08:28:08 AM
The idea of the template for the sign is a good one. That would allow some people to make their own. We would need to know size, design and colour (if we are using colour). Lets see if we cannot do just that but lets not post it until we have agreement.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: icrcc on August 29, 2013, 08:33:02 AM
As far as the "penny" lapel type pins if someone can line me up with a source for 1,000 lapel pin clips I will start cleaning pennies. then I will give them away (they literally only cost pennies  :) ) to preppers who want them.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 29, 2013, 10:37:13 AM
I took the liberty of sending 3 examples of artwork from here.... Rangers, Mountainmans and Greenguys... and asked for a price based on 2 or 3 colors for a 6"diameter back adhesive decal. Here is the reply.

"Weather proof adhesive decals 6” x 6” back face adhesive quantity 100:  $1.62 each.

All prices before taxes.  Quote assumes provision of print ready artwork by customer, else add $90.00 per hour artwork and setup fee as required. 50% due upon inital order, balance due upon pickup/delivery."

That will be for 100 of the same pattern of course.

ICRCC... here is a link to Tie tack blanks...... I think they would work very well.... http://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/72484110/tie-tack-blanks-set-of-50?ref=br_feed_30&br_feed_tlp=craft-supplies

Thoughts?


Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: thecrownsown on August 29, 2013, 10:41:47 AM
is this a bumper sticker? 

Costs are reasonable.  Masonic stickers usually cost us 5 bucks and up to slab something on my bumper.  The province of ontario wants over 100 bucks to put the masonic logo onto my license plate! lol.

The pin idea is good as it can be worn discretely on a coat or something. 
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 29, 2013, 10:47:43 AM
It would be either a 6" x 6" square or circle, not sure which, with the agreed upon logo, adhesive back. It could be affixed to a window, bumper, any solid surface.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on August 29, 2013, 12:43:35 PM
JAB,

Sent you an e-mail. This topic is advancing well. @ a $1.62 put me down for 10. Let me know when a design has been chosen and when to transfer funds.

Cheers,

Mountainman.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 29, 2013, 01:06:05 PM
JAB,

Sent you an e-mail. This topic is advancing well. @ a $1.62 put me down for 10. Let me know when a design has been chosen and when to transfer funds.

Cheers,

Mountainman.

Will do. We need to decide on a final design. Then I can arrange final details and production. I go for Greenguy's avatar as it is the clearest at any distance.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: icrcc on August 29, 2013, 04:38:49 PM
Put me down for some too.  :)
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 29, 2013, 05:05:18 PM
I have also sent an email to another supplier requesting a price on embroidered badges... Greenguys avatar in coyote/black 4" diameter. Shall we agree to accept Greenguy's avatar as the one to go with?
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: wild_E on August 29, 2013, 05:14:48 PM
wait..
there is an embroiderer in town that my ex wife used to deal with. I will ask them as well, send me the specs that you sent the other  embroiderer and we will compare pricing.





 
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 29, 2013, 05:26:45 PM
wait..
there is an embroiderer in town that my ex wife used to deal with. I will ask them as well, send me the specs that you sent the other  embroiderer and we will compare pricing.

Greenguy's avatar... in coyote and black... 4" diameter.

What do you think of adding a Velcro backing so it could be easily added or removed from your pack, jacket, etc?
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: wild_E on August 29, 2013, 06:06:21 PM
sorry still do not understand,,, coyote colour?
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 29, 2013, 06:07:09 PM
Desert tan and black   :)
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: NObshere on August 29, 2013, 11:03:39 PM
Put me down for some too.  :)
Yeah ditto 2 dozen
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: icrcc on August 29, 2013, 11:06:08 PM
Ditto. Two dozen.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: rmactsc on August 30, 2013, 05:33:20 AM
Prepper signs on property no.  Prepper logo patch yes.  Perhaps there could be an entirely seperate, new section where people can submit patch logo ideas.  I think the patch would be good if it's velcro so it can be displayed or removed as warranted.  Just a thought :)
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: icrcc on August 30, 2013, 08:49:48 AM
I think the Velcro idea is a really good one. The ability to add or remove the patch as the situation dictates certainly has a lot of merit.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: thecrownsown on August 30, 2013, 09:06:16 AM
So who is making these, and taking the orders?  How do you want to get paid and arrange for mail/pickup?
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on August 30, 2013, 09:24:08 AM
I got a quote back on the embroidered fabric patches. Greenguy's avatar in desert tan and black, 4" diameter... "this design would run you $7.75 (without velcro) or $8.25 (with velcro) per patch if you were to order 100 units".

It seems the patch with Velcro is the winner. $8.25 ea plus tax.

The adhesive stickers, 6" size,  with adhesive back and the same logo are $1.62 ea plus tax.

I'll wait till Wild_E gets a quote back from his source for the embroidered ones.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on August 30, 2013, 01:33:27 PM
Good Work JAB.

I was away from the computer yesterday, so I am late. Yes, Greenguys' logo in coyote and black sounds great. Better put me down for 6 patches and still for 10 stickers, if we are still getting stickers.

I will spread the word over here, hopefully we will get a few more in on the ground floor of this order.

Cheers,

MM.


PS - I have invited some other like-minded friends to drop by. Might get enough orders.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on August 30, 2013, 04:07:19 PM
Might as well count me in for 10.
I can email money transfer to your email address if that works.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: admin on August 30, 2013, 06:22:45 PM
Greenguy would you please consider posting or emailing your full size logo. I like the colour and although I could reproduce it from scratch I am not much for re-inventing the wheel. With your permission I would replace the current icon, a bulls eye, for website and forum for the favourites bar.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: wild_E on August 30, 2013, 09:33:30 PM
the embroidery place that I know is closed for the long weekend,
will call them on Tuesday
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: traveller on August 30, 2013, 09:57:22 PM
Put me down for 6 of each mountain man can get a hold of me when money needs to change hands...
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: NObshere on August 31, 2013, 09:35:46 AM
Any how... back to the subject of signs. IMHO the boyscout trail sign system from the manual (left a link earlier in the thread) is a very good idea for a number of reasons:

1. Opsec because really how many other people could actually read the signs

2. It would be a good start to a standardized system of communication. with say the addition of a penny or some such other easily recognisable symbol to denote a preper left it.

3. Can eventually evolve into actual personalised signs.

4. We need this form of communication because without a code book radio coms can be listened to and counter measures taken.

This is just my opinion and we'll start using it.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on August 31, 2013, 12:08:10 PM
Greenguy would you please consider posting or emailing your full size logo. I like the colour and although I could reproduce it from scratch I am not much for re-inventing the wheel. With your permission I would replace the current icon, a bulls eye, for website and forum for the favourites bar.

No problem.  I'll do that on Tuesday when I get back to the computer with the image on it.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on September 03, 2013, 09:04:39 AM
Here's the biggest size I have on this avatar.
I hope it helps!
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on September 03, 2013, 12:41:00 PM
That's great .. thanks Greenguy. I'm waiting to hear back from Wild_e as to what his person's price will be for the patches. I will also need to know if people still want the stick-on signs and the fabric Velcro patches or just the fabric.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: rmactsc on September 06, 2013, 10:57:07 PM
I'm in.  Some velcro patches and stickers would be great to have.  Let me know when it's decided when and how to purchase.  Next item should be tee shirts :)
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on September 22, 2013, 09:54:54 AM
Another topic that has practical application and interest and going great guns and then withered away so I'm bumping this one up as well. Wild... did you get a quote from your source on the embroidered patches? Is there still interest for this?
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: zeker on September 27, 2013, 07:38:41 AM
I,d be interested also
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: above all, adapt on September 27, 2013, 05:15:39 PM
bumping...c'mon guys  :)
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on September 27, 2013, 08:04:10 PM
JAB,

There is still interest. If Wild_E, is not getting back to you, maybe we need to move this forward while the support is here. I am still in.

MM.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on September 27, 2013, 09:29:13 PM
I'll see what I can do to gather prices on bumper stickers and embroidered patches.  Give me a few days.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: NObshere on September 28, 2013, 12:27:10 AM
2 dozen bumper stickers
2 dozen patches

PM me with the pricing/ handling
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on September 28, 2013, 10:50:32 AM
I've re-done the logo with "coyote" background color and increased the resolution to comply with the needs of the print shop(s).
Bumper stickers can be ordered.  It turns out that round is not a common shape for bumper stickers, and the piece price goes down with volume, but the bottom line is I can get them.  Embroidered patches are easier to get.  I'm still weighing options on them.  I know that some of you want hook and loop backing on them as well, so that's another option.
Here's the logo as it stands today:
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on September 28, 2013, 12:03:39 PM
Thanks Greenguy!!

That looks great. Good to see this topic get active again.

Cheers,

Mountainman.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: wild_E on September 28, 2013, 12:38:32 PM
Wild_E
did get back to him, getting final details from the shop this week.
Good pricing, just not good health right now, so everything will be turned over to JAB to work on!
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on September 29, 2013, 08:46:34 PM
Wild_ E,

Thanks for the clarification. Sorry to hear about the poor health. Get well soon!!!

Take care of number one. We need you around here. :)

Mountainman.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: rmactsc on September 30, 2013, 09:17:30 AM
I second Mountainman's comment.  Take care of yourself Wild_E.  I hope you feel better soon.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on September 30, 2013, 11:09:04 AM
The print shop I use locally for other things can make the 4" bumper stickers for $3.00 each.  That seems pretty reasonable since he'll do small batches and I don't have to order a big pile of them.  Then, once he has the set up in his computer he'll be able to run a batch whenever we want him to.  If that sounds reasonable to everyone, I'll give him the go-ahead for the first 60 units.
Best wishes to Wild-E for a speedy recovery!
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: NObshere on September 30, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
Give'er
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on September 30, 2013, 07:07:41 PM
My computer was crapped out for the past few days. Hope you get better soon Wild.... rest and do what you have to do.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on September 30, 2013, 07:16:51 PM
Wild_E's price was $0.70 per decal for 100 and 100 embroidered pieces for $4.00 each. I'll ask Wild to forward his contact info for the printer so I can contact directly and go from there.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on September 30, 2013, 07:31:08 PM
Going through the thread I have the following "wants"...
Mountainman Bumper stickers 10     Velcro Patches???
Nobshere  Decals 24  Velcro Patches 24
icrcc Decals 24  Velcro Patches???
Greenguy Decals 10  Velcro Patches???
Traveller  Decals 6  Velcro Patches 6
Zeker..... some???
rmactsc....some???
Justabear  Decals 10  Velcro Patches 10

Anyone else interested and able to provide numbers please chime in.

JAB
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: rmactsc on September 30, 2013, 08:06:09 PM
6 decals and 4 velcro patches for me please  :)
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on September 30, 2013, 08:20:43 PM
@rmactsc... thanks
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: above all, adapt on September 30, 2013, 08:58:10 PM
Hey JAB

5 decals, 5 velcros pretty please :)
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: icrcc on October 01, 2013, 10:08:11 AM
 Decals 24  and 6 Velcro patches please.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on October 01, 2013, 12:31:46 PM
Wild_E's price was $0.70 per decal for 100 and 100 embroidered pieces for $4.00 each. I'll ask Wild to forward his contact info for the printer so I can contact directly and go from there.
I've seen those kind of prices on-line from international vendors.  If they can be "landed" in Ontario for distribution for that amount, then that's a far better price.  If that price will have international shipping and brokerage added to it then I'd say leave them there and I'll go local.  Let me know.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: JustABear on October 01, 2013, 12:35:41 PM
Wild_E's price was $0.70 per decal for 100 and 100 embroidered pieces for $4.00 each. I'll ask Wild to forward his contact info for the printer so I can contact directly and go from there.
I've seen those kind of prices on-line from international vendors.  If they can be "landed" in Ontario for distribution for that amount, then that's a far better price.  If that price will have international shipping and brokerage added to it then I'd say leave them there and I'll go local.  Let me know.

Will do. Wild will be able to give me more information as soon as he gets his health issue addressed... shouldn't be too long.

BTW... I have you down for 10 Decals.. do you want patches as well? How many?

Jab
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on October 01, 2013, 12:41:34 PM
I'd take 4 patches too!  Thank you!
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Mountainman on October 01, 2013, 07:25:10 PM
Thanks JAB,

I confirm 10 stickies/decals and 6 velcros.

Cheers,

MM.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: NObshere on October 26, 2013, 08:27:36 AM
when can we expect the products to be ready?
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on October 28, 2013, 03:52:14 PM
I'm opening a new discussion for this thread in the confidential board.  See you there.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on November 11, 2013, 11:08:35 PM
The 3" stickers are done and I've begun sending them out.  Détails are in the confidential section.   
For JAB, I can probably get some to you the next time we meet.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: rmactsc on November 12, 2013, 08:12:34 AM
Where is the confidential section Greenguy?
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on November 12, 2013, 08:40:52 AM
The board is here:


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Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: rmactsc on November 12, 2013, 12:53:46 PM
Thanks Greenguy.  However under special boards I only have access to the Campfire and to Rants.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: Greenguy on November 12, 2013, 02:57:54 PM
Just PM me.  I'll send them to you any way you want to receive them.  No problem.
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: wild_E on November 12, 2013, 10:01:03 PM
Roger,, you were added to the group
Title: Re: Prepper Signs
Post by: rmactsc on November 13, 2013, 02:28:56 PM
Thanks Wild_E.  Let me know if you want a free copy of Biohazard Redacted Book 1 of the Zombie Apocalypse.  If so send me an email to rmactsc@yahoo.com and I'll send you a gift ebook copy :)