SHTF Threats & Thoughts => Global Political => Topic started by: zeker on October 04, 2015, 03:36:52 PM

Title: ok.. now.. we be serious
Post by: zeker on October 04, 2015, 03:36:52 PM
after 4 yrs of coalition countrys bombing sand dunes and vacant lots.. they are seriously considering (maybe) hitting ISIS.
russia has done more against ISIS in 4 days than all the coalition forces have done in 4 yrs.
could they have just been poor shots? could ISIS have been so superior?
I think not.
somebody wasnt trying..
looks like the ruskies can have this wrapped up by christmas.. at least b4 another US pres comes into veiw.
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Putin 'sending 150,000 soldiers to Syria<blockquote>End of ISIS? Putin 'sending 150,000 soldiers to Syria to WIPE OUT evil Islamic State'

VLADIMIR Putin is preparing to send 150,000 troops to Syria in a bid to wipe out the evil Islamic State once and for all.

The Russian leader is reportedly mounting an enormous military mission to take control of the terror group's stronghold of Raqqa.

The city is the self-declared capital of ISIS in Syria and is patrolled by as many as 5,000 jihadi members.

Putin is set to mobilise 150,000 reservists who he conscripted into the military earlier this week.

An insider revealed: "It is very clear that Russia wants to sweep up the west of the country, taking Raqqa and all the oil and gas resources around Palmyra.

"This is fast becoming a race to Raqqa to secure the oil fields they need to cleanse the region of insurgents, and the IS capital is vital to do that."

It comes a day after Russian jets obliterated nine ISIS outposts in just 24 hours using bunker-busting bombs.

Russian jets pounded terrorist targets and blew up a command centre, potentially killing dozens of fighters.

Confirming the successful raids, Andrei Kartapolov from the Russian army vowed to ramp up the pressure, saying: "We will not only continue strikes... We will also increase their intensity."

And Russian Defence Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said: "Over the past 24 hours, Sukhoi Su-34 and Su-24M fighter jets have performed 20 sorties and hit nine Islamic State installations.

A bunker-busting BETAB-500 air bomb dropped from a Sukhoi Su-34 bomber near Raqqa has eliminated the command post of one of the terror groups, together with an underground storage facility for explosives and munitions.

"These and other highly exact means of attack in recent days have been used to target objects of Islamic State terrorists.

"Command posts, stores of weapons and oil products, workshops where weapons of suicide bombers are made."

Meanwhile a terrorism expert revealed to that ISIS have vastly exaggerated their military strength and called on Western leaders to launch a co-ordinated fightback which would obliterate the hate group.

Dr Afzal Ashraf said ISIS has become its own worst enemy with its campaign of terror against the West, which has prompted an international backlash.

He said: "This mythical state will disappear in a matter of hours once the international community decides to act.

"It won't take very long at all to drive them, if not out of all of Iraq or Syria, then certainly the majority of their territories.

"They will hide in towns, but I would say do not to follow them as they would use innocent civilians as human shields."

David Cameron initially gave the Russian air strikes a cautious welcome and said the UK would need to look "very carefully" at Putin's operations.

But yesterday he warned the intervention is making the situation worse and helping to support the "butcher" president Bashar Assad.

Seperately Mr Cameron pledged to "beef up" the SAS and double the number of British drones to combat ISIS militants in an interview ahead of today's Conservative conference.

The Prime Minister said investment in special forces and surveillance was essential to meeting the terrorist threat facing the UK.

He revealed that the UK will buy a fleet of 20 new Protector drones capable of targeting IS extremists in Iraq and Syria. (</blockquote>
Title: Re: ok.. now.. we be serious
Post by: icrcc on October 05, 2015, 10:27:37 AM
They could be there for a very long time. Maybe time for the US, us and everyone out to get out and leave it to Putin and Iran. After all we can't say that the Wests recent escapades in Libya, Iraq or Afghanistan were stellar success stories now can we.
Title: Re: ok.. now.. we be serious
Post by: Greenguy on October 05, 2015, 04:46:11 PM
Putin is there at the request and with the approval Assad.  He (Putin) will strike any enemy of Assad, which includes ISIS and Western coalition forces.  Obama says he will not fight a proxy war with Russia in Syria.  If that is true, then the USA will have to withdraw.  The attempt by the USA to create and enforce a "no-fly" zone in Syrian airspace is nothing more than empty words. 
The only real looser in this appears to be Israel.
Title: Re: ok.. now.. we be serious
Post by: zeker on October 05, 2015, 05:40:05 PM
as stated. putin is ther at the request of his ally.
the US is not there at the request of the elected gov.
how would the US feel if some group showed up in alabama/et all? at the request of some rebel group? or by no request at all?
what gives the US the right to invade a country 6000 miles from their shore WHO IS NOT THREATENING THE USA?
the middle east has been at war for millenium.. nothing NOBODY does will change that.
blockade the whole area and let them have at it.
we can discuss terms with the survivor.
Title: Re: ok.. now.. we be serious
Post by: icrcc on October 05, 2015, 07:18:11 PM
What ticks me off is that I pend 25c per litre of gas more than I should just so the Saudis can fund ISIS. Get out of there. Stop funding them and let them fight to THEIR last man.