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Title: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: rmactsc on July 27, 2013, 12:13:21 AM
I find myself periodically changing and or reorganizing my bug out bag as new and better features become available.  I started with a U.S. military medium backpack and then changed to several other brands and styles; but my latest and greatest which I anticipate staying with for a long time is the Condor 3 day assault pack in OD green.  What pack is everyone else using these days for their bug out bags?
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: wild_E on July 27, 2013, 01:01:23 AM
I had the medium Alice Pack with a full setup.. long story not anymore... ex wife.. grrrrrr


now I just purchased a 30 yr old CDN army fully pack, integrated system. Should take pics of it, and am outfitting it.
My go bag is a smaller, civie pattern ... read non military, stocked for a 3 day out of vehicle experience. Will be adding in a Life straw soon.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: JustABear on July 27, 2013, 02:42:25 PM
I have a long back British Army surplus Bergen with side pouches as my BOB. Main pack capacity is 100 liters with the side pouches adding 10 liters capacity each. It is relatively comfortable and very durable. They are easy to acquire and the price is reasonable.

JAB
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: rmactsc on July 27, 2013, 06:33:54 PM
It's amazing how many great bug out bags there are both new and used at reasonable prices; at many of the Army/Navy surplus stores.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: Ranger2012 on July 29, 2013, 06:53:56 AM
Too many people, don't know the difference between a Go bag and a GOOD back pack. Go bag, less than 5 min. warning, GOOD, gone with what you can assemble and carry, and most likely not coming back. For some that means hauling a trailer, and in a convoy with out-riders.  :o
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: Mountainman on July 29, 2013, 04:59:27 PM
Now Ranger,

You and I both know, when traveling with a wagon-train it is ALWAYS best to have outriders and scouts - on both flanks, as well as, fore and aft of the main party. But you are very correct on pointing out the different uses and bags.

From my recent experience around here. Here is a firm rule, always, always, always - evac heavy. If you have the time, take whatever you can fit in the BOV or BOV & trailer, do not expect to EVER return. If that is not how you are thinking when you evac, you are going to get burned. Many of us around here got lucky this time. But we were lulled into a false sense of security because surely it will never flood this far away from the river. We, all, assumed because it never had, it never would. History teaches many good lessons, but not all historical lessons project to the future. When in doubt, pack heavy. If you don't need it or you get to return, so what, you had it. On the other hand, if you assume it will be a short evac and you never get to go back home to get the gear you left behind, you will be kicking yourself so hard, for so long.......I digress.

For me, my BOB is a very large red duffle bag. I plan to leave in my vehicle. Until that is not an option, all my gear is ready to go. As mode of travel changes, what stays behind changes. My main pack is a medium ALICE bag on a CDN '64 Pattern ruck frame with an aftermarket harness. Not pretty. But it still works. I, also have a gear vest in the duffle. It carries as much as a daypack, but with the weight distributed around me, not just on my shoulders.

Good topic.

Mountainman.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: wild_E on July 29, 2013, 09:53:36 PM
NOTE TO ALL
MountainMan has had to bug out 2 times in the past 3 months !


so I would listen to his sage words
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: Mountainman on July 30, 2013, 12:08:22 AM
WildE,

I am sure others on here have valuable advice as well. One flood and a nearby tornado, were just unscheduled practice drills. Than can happen at any time, any where to anybody. Maybe that was the point WildE was trying to make. Any time, any where, any body.

It sure keeps you humble. Thanks everyone for your support and contributing to great threads like this one.

Cheers,

Mountainman.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: Gravlore on July 30, 2013, 03:29:32 AM
We were going to get military packs but decided to blend in with mid level civilian packs. I would rather have a military pack though and may still get one and 'dress it up' to look normal.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: rmactsc on July 31, 2013, 10:28:23 PM
I can't tell you how many times I've changed packs over the many years I've had bug out bags.  Maybe it's just a convenient excuse to keep buying more packs :)
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: Ranger2012 on August 01, 2013, 01:37:19 AM
That's funny, because that's the same thing my wife says about purses. ;D
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: Mountainman on August 01, 2013, 10:57:06 AM
Gravs,

If you get a military pack system and need a quick camo for blending in with the civvies just put a rain cover over the whole bag - in day glo orange or fluorescent pink, then you can rip it off and throw it in the ditch when you reach tactical country. Or save the rain cover and use as a panel marker for landing helicopters.

Just a  thought,

Mountainman.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: wild_E on August 01, 2013, 12:15:20 PM
MntnMan has a great idea,
maybe though get the hunters version, bright orange on one side and camo on the other though. Then it has multiple uses with it being able to be removed and used another place.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: Ranger2012 on August 01, 2013, 02:48:12 PM
Here is a new revised way of hauling an extra pack.

http://dixonrollerpack.com/3327.html
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: wild_E on August 01, 2013, 04:35:35 PM
I have always suggested get a good golf cart with big wheels to haul extra gear, or a bike with a trailer
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: JustABear on August 01, 2013, 06:09:03 PM
Ranger. I would modify the device your link shows. It would need 2 wheels spaced further apart than your hips. One wheel will allow for constant shifting of the load from side to side which would constantly throw you off balance and take a lot of energy to correct. Another useful device would be a "jogger" type stroller.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: rmactsc on August 01, 2013, 08:37:56 PM
Rollercart; what an interesting concept.  I've never seen one around these parts before.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: Ranger2012 on August 02, 2013, 06:34:20 AM
I agree to a point on the two wheel concept, except in rough terrain, then one wheel would be easier. At least that's what I believe.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: Mountainman on August 02, 2013, 11:05:28 AM
Here is a new revised way of hauling an extra pack.

http://dixonrollerpack.com/3327.html

Ranger,

That Dixon roller pack looks good, I agree with JAB in theory about 2 wheels, but in this case, since the frame has two anchor points at the hips like a pulk (covered toboggan) I think this design will be more stable than one would believe.

Not to mention this rolling frame would also be good for casualty extraction and possibly transportation.

I bet you could move at least 100lbs on this device and probably 150lbs without too much effort if loaded correctly.

Mountainman.

PS - Any ideas on what it costs??
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: NObshere on August 15, 2013, 04:58:13 PM
We have all decided to carry the gerig water pack, which holds upto 40lbs small survival items, 4 large duffel bags med suplys,ammo, firearms...etc and pass off to one another to share the load, a few of us have purchased tac vests and yes you can wear them in conjunction with the pack and it also helps to balance the load.Will be practicing BO with horses this fall. Leading and riding trade offs to keep everyone from exhaustion. Should be fun.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: Ranger2012 on August 16, 2013, 12:24:47 PM
I just saw a similar unit being towed by a bicycle, without a load. In this case I must admit it did look like a recipe for disaster. It had the usual single point attachment and with an uneven load it would be beyond a nightmare to tow.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: thecrownsown on August 30, 2013, 08:29:00 AM
I have this.  Its simply a military surplus backpack.   Its great, fits everything I need to get started and live for a fairly extended length of time in a bind....  What I like is that it has several pockets on it so I can readily access different items while travelling.  Calories, compass, etc. 

Before anyone says it...yes, the black case on the bottom is gone and content concealed within the pack now. :)   Became irritatingly obvious how it sticks out and really serves no practical purpose hanging off like that.  :)

Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: wild_E on August 30, 2013, 09:35:06 AM
what was in the bag? Looks like a cot holder to me, I have a Swiss brand one and it is huge and comfy!
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: icrcc on August 30, 2013, 10:00:24 AM
Wild_E  when it is packed your cot is bigger and heavier than my tent pack!  :o
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: wild_E on August 30, 2013, 10:09:34 AM
yes, that is a long term cot for comfiness not for bugging out!
nice and soft and big and comfy and actually better for sleeping in than my bed actually!
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: Jerry D Young on August 30, 2013, 04:18:56 PM
My primary kit is a multi-purpose kit, most of it on a game cart. But part of the kit is a Kifaru Marauder 2,500ci MOLLE pack with gun bearer, cargo shelf, and Omni belt. (I have a large very discrete pack cover for it.)  Since I can only carry 10 to 15 pounds normally, up to 20 in a real pinch for short times, on my back, the Kifaru carries only the basics. A Kifaru E&E 1,000ci pouch/pack is a dedicated survival kit that can be piggy backed to the Marauder, or carried on the game cart, placed where I can grab it and go in case everything must be abandoned on a moment's notice.

Having discovered actual effective 'off-road' rolling packs, such as the Dixon already mentioned, I will be looking at them as an intermediate option to let me carry more with me than the Marauder without having to use the game cart. I plan to incorporate something like the Dixon as part of the game cart load, where I can strap into it and take it and the Kifaru/E&E combo, leaving the heaviest and bulkiest items on the cached game cart. But that is a future project.

Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: thecrownsown on August 30, 2013, 09:07:36 PM
what was in the bag? Looks like a cot holder to me, I have a Swiss brand one and it is huge and comfy!

Lol. I promise no cot, etc. I didn't pack a propane cappucino machine either! ;)

The extra bag did not sit right sideways, then I fastened it vertical...then it hit the dump! :) 

My bag is under 40 pounds but we'll stocked. I don't carry water, just a Berkey water bottle which does 75 gal. I believe.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: above all, adapt on October 08, 2013, 08:46:21 PM
Here is a really fantastic item to go with our BOBs...I hiked 19.4 kms the other weekend up a mountain, round a lake nestled in the mountains, and back down with a 45lb backpack, and let me tell you I was really wishing I had this!

I did not think I could do it but with the mutual support between my hiking partner and I, we did it. Support is so precious..... :)

I am totally going to make one of these, with some additions/changes for myself.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no2zmMyGhHU
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: wild_E on October 09, 2013, 11:24:16 AM
Yes, support can be beautiful  ;D


I always take a 1/4 staff with me when hiking, so useful in so many ways!
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: above all, adapt on October 09, 2013, 11:55:22 AM
I ended up using a stick from along the trail, but Id like to have a multifunction staff like this one.  
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: mrselfdistruct on November 07, 2013, 12:02:23 AM
Hmm love the topic, and the responses.  I believe in a tiered system, I have a LBV and hunting/BOB that get repacked almost every week for weekend activity's.  The BOB is a camelback brand hunting pack, that I got second hand somewhere and has the basics for survival, think food water and shelter.  The LBV is more about security.  This is a light load, but i feel that if this is all I have to 'run' with... this is what I would want with me.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: icrcc on November 07, 2013, 12:18:25 AM
Hmm love the topic, and the responses.  I believe in a tiered system, I have a LBV and hunting/BOB that get repacked almost every week for weekend activity's.  The BOB is a camelback brand hunting pack, that I got second hand somewhere and has the basics for survival, think food water and shelter.  The LBV is more about security.  This is a light load, but i feel that if this is all I have to 'run' with... this is what I would want with me.

I could not agree more I think that a tiered response is by far the best approach. Have the options available and choose a solution that is appropriate for the situation. I have extensive BO materials in BOV. I have a full BOB and I have an additional 36 hour BOB. Depending on the situation I can keep or abandon as dictated by the situation. I love available redundancy!  8)
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: Mountainman on March 13, 2014, 10:45:10 PM
All,

After listening to all concerned on this forum and others about not using military styled packs to protect yourself from becoming a target of mobs.

I have found this pack pictured below that has military sympathetic colours but civilian styling. It is available in a 60 and 75 litre configurations. Okay the sizing on this picture is a little large but you can go to MEC.ca for more info on the Brio 60 and Brio 75 backpack - Men's. The ladies has different colouring.

MM.

(http://images.mec.ca/fluid/customers/c822/5028-700/generated/5028-700_SAH06_view1_720x720.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: livingpower on March 14, 2014, 08:55:40 AM
This is all fabulous information, folks.  I am in the process of building up my BOB and need a decent pack.  I will be heading out to our local surplus store soon to see what they have, but knowing MEC has some good choices is great.  When I have chosen a pack, I'll post it here to see what you all think.  I am assuming things such as the amount of space, the number of compartments and side pockets, the level of waterproofness (LOL new word?), and the ability to attach things on the outside (when appropriate) are all important considerations.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: tazweiss on March 14, 2014, 12:52:32 PM
Mine is my old '64 pattern ruck with a custom bag.  Like MM, it's ugly but I've put a lot of miles on it and it's comfy.  Everything in it is in Ziploc bags and the main compartment has a waterproof liner.  Of course I've tried to pack as light as possible and I can use it as a flotation device if I need to cross a river.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: livingpower on April 06, 2014, 09:26:25 AM
I just bought a North 49 waterproof pack.  It's got a lot of capacity and a lot of support.  Feels very comfortable to carry.  It's black.  Not sure if that's the most ideal colour, but it's certainly better than anything bright.
Title: Re: Favorite Bug Out Bag
Post by: icrcc on April 06, 2014, 11:41:39 AM
Which model of the North 49 did you buy? Perhaps you will be able to give a review of it once you have had a chance to put it through its paces. There is always a comfort in knowing that you have the right too for the job and a quality too to boot.