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Wesley Clark Calls for Internment Camps for Radicalized"Americans


https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/20/chattanooga-wesley-clark-calls-internment-camps-disloyal-americans/



Wesley Clark Calls for Internment Camps for Radicalized"Americans


https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/20/chattanooga-wesley-clark-calls-internment-camps-disloyal-americans/


Retired general and former Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark on Friday called for World War II-style internment camps to be revived for “disloyal Americans.” In an interview with MSNBC’s Thomas Roberts


in the wake of the mass shooting in Chatanooga, Tennessee, Clark said that during World War II, “if someone supported Nazi Germany at the expense of the United States, we didn’t say that was freedom of speech, we


put him in a camp, they were prisoners of war.”


He called for a revival of internment camps to help combat Muslim extremism, saying, “If these people are radicalized and they don’t support the United States and they are disloyal to the United States as a matter


of principle, fine. It’s their right and it’s our right and obligation to segregate them from the normal community for the duration of the conflict.”




The comments were shockingly out of character for Clark, who after serving as supreme allied commander of NATO made a name for himself in progressive political circles. In 2004, his campaign for the Democratic


presidential nomination was highly critical of the Bush administration’s excessive response to the 9/11 terror attacks. Since then, he has been a critic of policies that violate the Geneva Convention, saying in


2006 that policies such as torture violate “the very values that [we] espouse.”


In a memoir written the following year, he also famously alleged that the White House under Bush had developed a massively imperialistic plan for the Middle East, which would see the administration attempt to “take


out seven countries in five years,” beginning with the invasions in Iraq and Afghanistan.


Earlier this year I spoke with Clark at the annual Lewis and Clark University Symposium on International Affairs in Portland, Oregon. The subject of our discussion was how to deal with the potential threat of


foreign fighters returning from armed conflicts abroad. At the time, Clark spoke out strongly against “the politics of fear” and eroding democratic institutions and norms, while reiterating his criticism of the


excesses committed by Bush-era neoconservatives under the banner of fighting terrorism.


But on Friday, he was advocating the revival of a policy widely considered to be among the most shameful chapters in American history: World War II domestic internment camps. Aside from the inherent problems in


criminalizing people for their beliefs, Clark’s proposal (which his MSNBC interlocutor did not challenge him on) also appears to be based on the concept of targeting people for government scrutiny who are not even


“radicalized,” but who the government decides may be subject to radicalization in the future. That radicalization itself is a highly amorphous and politically malleable concept only makes this proposal more


troubling.


“We have got to identify the people who are most likely to be radicalized. We’ve got to cut this off at the beginning,” Clark said. “I do think on a national policy level we need to look at what self-radicalization


means because we are at war with this group of terrorists.” And he added that “not only the United States but our allied nations like Britain, Germany and France are going to have to look at their domestic law


procedures.”


Despite an outcry about his comments on social media, Clark has not responded publicly. As of Monday morning, his latest tweet was from Friday, encouraging his followers to watch his interview.




Update 07/21/15 11:12AM EST:


General Clark did not respond to subsequent requests for comment on the story, although a spokesperson for his office did reach out to raise questions about the title. On his Twitter feed however, Clark appeared to


reiterate his comments for detaining “seditious” individuals at home who might be


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Re: Wesley Clark Calls for Internment Camps for Radicalized"Americans
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2015, 09:00:42 PM »
What else would you do with these wantabe terrorist? Slap them on the wrist and tell they were bad and not to it again. Set them free to blow up a gov't office or shoot up a military recruitment center? They have adapted a religion that tells them that if you don't fallow their religion you must be murdered

I don't care if they are "Radicalized" Americans, Canadians, Brits, French or German. They are terrorists, traitors to the country. Putting them in jail, prisons, or Internment Camps is to go for them. Traitors should be shot
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Re: Wesley Clark Calls for Internment Camps for Radicalized"Americans
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2015, 09:34:04 AM »
Then it's their families, or their ethnic group, perhaps then their neighbours, what about co-workers, then 'other subversives', followed by activists, then journalists ...


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Re: Wesley Clark Calls for Internment Camps for Radicalized"Americans
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2015, 11:57:05 AM »
Let us not forget the very loose rules the U.S. government uses to define a radical or a terrorist.  Basically, If you live and breath and you have ever looked sideways in the general direction of Washington D.C., you may be a terrorist.
If Mr. Clark had his way, there would be a lot of prepper supplies up for sale because the owners would all be in camps.  There would also be a lot of churches up for sale because there would be no congregations left to fill them.
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